My C10 is Bent! Let's Fix it with A Better Way to Bend and Notch Tubing! Finnegan's Garage Ep.129 

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For years Newbern and I have struggled to build rollcages without wasting a lot of time and tubing. Well, thanks to the recent purchase of some innovative tools and a few tips from a fellow US-firstr, we just leveled-up our cage game! In this video we'll demonstrate how to use the tool kit from
Centurial Tools www.centurialinc.com/tube-coping-tools
as we finish up the cage on my 1967 Chevrolet C10 sport truck. This is the truck with the 650hp supercharged Chevrolet Performance LT4 crate engine, the 6xdgearbox.com billet aluminum sequential manual transmission, the independent rear suspension, Forgeline 20-inch wheels and Mittler Bros hydraulically adjustable Hydroshox!
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shugga leaf
shugga leaf 3 days ago
Check out Kyle vaus* @ the fab forum's on US-first! Especially on Friday! You might need that tool!
Harry Ascroft
Harry Ascroft 15 days ago
May have already sorted the power steering but if you check out bad obsession motorsports project binky they use a stand alone power steering pump with its own electric motor. From memory it’s out of a Mercedes. I will find the episode.
Kyle Barnett
Kyle Barnett 23 days ago
Probably too late now but ep3 civic si and mid sw20 mr2 had an elec/hydraulic power steering pump that are affordable and reliable.
alec farmer
alec farmer Month ago
AUSTIN Month ago
YOOOOOOOOO, holley makes a hydralic steering pump mount for LT's and once you have that, you shouldn't have any problems mounting a steering rack wherever ends up being the best place for it. dont worry about relying on a mount kit for the rack, they are so easy to mount wherever you want.
hotrods woodshed
hotrods woodshed 2 months ago
based on what I understand, that curved pipe is not fully efficient without triangulation. In other words, that aspect of your cage connection is only as strong as that pipe Bend. Which isn't very strong... and that is where triangulation comes into play. There needs to be another bar anchoring down to the frame in the opposite direction to give a triangle effect for that top bar to solidly hold
Marcus Woodard
Marcus Woodard 2 months ago
Did you guys put a coat of clear on that test pipe? Great idea btw.
M4X THR0TT1E 2 months ago
Friggin LAYZAR!
burt bacarach
burt bacarach 2 months ago
You ALMOST cost me a computer with the 'worm' comment!I just about sprayed my keyboard down with coke! But wait...If Cotten has super powers to do the worm (and I'd say he does) does that make him SUPER WORM?
Keith Thompson
Keith Thompson 2 months ago
This kind of thing always takes me so long to accomplish. Glad it takes you guys a long time too. Makes me feel better.
Zach Costello
Zach Costello 2 months ago
Volvo S40's have an electric power steering pump if you want to keep they hydraulic rack
Peter Stoltz
Peter Stoltz 2 months ago
You guys are awesome!!!💯💯💯I still watch ROADKILL and I'm glad to find your channel 😀😊
Allen Messmer
Allen Messmer 2 months ago
Right on brother you guys rock.
Zack Vanderlinden
Zack Vanderlinden 2 months ago
Next time measure from the mark on the firewall to the laser point (approx. 23:30) with the straight edge (leaving the cheater on the frame adapter). That way you can do the job by your self and It should be more accurate.
Noah James
Noah James 2 months ago
Holley makes a really nice mid mount accessory drive system for the LS and LT.
M Astley
M Astley 2 months ago
Newbern should wear at least gloves and even long sleeves while he welds... I know an old welder who exclusively wears thick leather gloves because as he puts it, his hands are his moneymakers. If he injures a hand he's out of a job.
John Innis
John Innis 2 months ago
I don't understand marking the "center" of the tube before you have started cutting and welding. When you are just dealing with a straight piece of pipe like that, ANY straight line (if it is thin enough) is a center line. Just set the tube on a piece of angle and trace the edge of the angle onto the tube. If it is short enough, a doorjamb works great for this. Till your wife asks why there are sharpie marks all over the doorjambs...
Layton Hammann
Layton Hammann 2 months ago
Is there a link for the 3d printed tools in this video?
TheBisquik 2 months ago
@23:30 couldn’t you also just measure from the laser pointer to the desired mark on the fire wall
Ryan Purtteman
Ryan Purtteman 2 months ago
It will mark the center of your tube as long as your not using a plastic table
G FAMILY 2 months ago
Sandrails are using the Electric steering columns from prius and other vehicles. Works great.👍
JayinMI 2 months ago
Most people seem to be using Asian electrical power steering. Toyota units are very popular.
Religions Is About Magic
Lookin nice, some company makes an low profile adjustable electric power steering kits that mounts below the steering collar. Should stop thanking the magic god/jesus as their is over 3000's of these magic gods around the world. Plus no evidence of any of them. All religions have some sort of issues with sex abuse towards children and women.
Hall's Autobody & Paint
I absolutely love watching your videos mate. Thoroughly enjoying them here in the UK
Sara Barnes
Sara Barnes 2 months ago
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Gene King
Gene King 2 months ago
I like what you do but this truck has kind of lost it's soul along the way eh. It's a c10 like a nascar is a mustang
Zack Hedrick
Zack Hedrick 2 months ago
A Toyota mr2 electric power steering pump would fix you up for sure.
Scottimus Garrett
Scottimus Garrett 2 months ago
The Worm scene just killed me, dude...😂
Jok3y Jesu3
Jok3y Jesu3 2 months ago
Older mr2 electric power steering pump like the formula supra
Derek Hansen
Derek Hansen 2 months ago
Mike, use a manual rack and a Prius or yaris electric column, it's a 3 wire hook up and provides a decent amount of assistance.👍
T Friesen
T Friesen 2 months ago
Without scrolling through the current amount (849) comments, did anyone mention that when you bend a tube, the wall thickness of the outside radius of the bend is actually thinner? Check the thickness of the tube (as any NHRA chassis inspector would) and see what the thickness of the tubes are in the bends. If the cage is to be certified (which I doubt) for any kind of racing, I’m sure the inspectors will check that the tubes are the same wall thickness.
Kellen Hunt
Kellen Hunt 2 months ago
Newbern Looks good and tired at the beginning of the video. Don't you let him sleep Finnegan???
Kurtz Garfield
Kurtz Garfield 2 months ago
Badass tool.
Mr Chips
Mr Chips 2 months ago
Wives hate br
RT Norland
RT Norland 2 months ago
Nothing but good stuff Finn and Newbern!
Lance Ward
Lance Ward 2 months ago
Very good episode with tons of useful info!
David vonAnderseck
David vonAnderseck 2 months ago
What about the catty
StumpyBuilt 2 months ago
Check out hoovies garage they put a prius elec motor on the steering shaft for a manual rack.
Ryan Rask
Ryan Rask 2 months ago
What is the work light you use?
tim joris de vries
tim joris de vries 2 months ago
For finding the centre of a tube i use a piece of angle iron. Just put on top and draw a line.
Tucker Amidon
Tucker Amidon 2 months ago
GoPro fisheye @24:11 makes you boys look swole! (Or hunchback.)
Ross Purdy
Ross Purdy 2 months ago
Hey gang! Awesome build, love your stuff. Just wanted to reach out real quick with a little additional science for ya. When you're talking about the chlorinated brake clean you're absolutely correct about it transforming into phosgene gas. First off the stuff is neurotoxic which means the poisoning occurs in the brain and it's incredibly nasty and lethal. One whiff of the stuff is enough to kill an adult human. The actual transformation of the chlorine to the phosgene is why I wanted to write all this. You mentioned that it's when it's superheated and that's not quite accurate. What triggers the transformation is the UV light that the arc gives off. If you were gas welding for instance, you would still have the heat to melt the steel pipe, but not the intensity of the UV and I don't believe the transformation would occur. I wouldn't take the chance however. I read in a welding journal (journeyman welder here) about someone welding over a tiny puddle of brake clean (think rust pit size) and getting a funny smell for a split second. By that evening he had a blinding headache, he was vomiting uncontrollably and couldn't maintain a coherent thought train. His wife called the ambulance and he made it, but he suffers from memory issues, coordination deterioration and other nasty symptoms. So you were exactly correct, be super careful when using it, that you get the non-chlorinated version. CRC makes a really good one, because the chlorinated cans are red, and the non-chlorinated ones are green. Hope this helps! Stay safe!
Jarod Emahizer
Jarod Emahizer 2 months ago
great work! a suggestion for next time: @23:39 when you are trying to calculate the height needed. Next time, try leaving the tube in place on top of the quick disconnect as it already was. You know the laser is in the center of the tube, take a measurement vertically from where the laser is to the center of your attachment panel on the truck, and that should be your distance needed in the tube to raise it high enough to connect the two properly. Since the tube is already at 90* (parallel to the chassis) and your quick disconnect was installed at 90* (perpendicular to the chassis) the only variable you have to solve for at that point is the needed height between the laser's dot and the center on your attachment pannel on the firewall. Seriously love, not trying to armchair engineering just thought it might save you some time in the future.
scott stanley
scott stanley 2 months ago
Super video! I applauded for $2.00 👏
aXBlackDeathXa 2 months ago
Mike I'd highly recommend looking into a universal electric steering rack. Not only can you adjust a setup like this to be more or less responsive with the turn of a knob but it also gives you power steering with just battery power - the vehicle doesn't have to be running! Check out a company called Turn One Steering or American Powertrain sells a kit now as well. Just throw a manual rack in there - add the power assist box - use any column you want BAM!
Robert Chaffee
Robert Chaffee 2 months ago
I like all the new fab tools you got and used on this project. keep up the great work.
batbat1156 2 months ago
Great video i learn a lot.
John Gray
John Gray 2 months ago
Worm Man
Kris.Ivanovv 2 months ago
Mike, you can use VOLVO 2004-2013 Volvo C70 C30 S40 electric power stearing pump. It is compact and work super.
KSR Performance & Fabrication
Hey Mike, when you are completing the last weld on a tube that "caps" the pipe, you now have expanding air rushing through the hole that you are welding up as the tube is heating up and the air inside of the tube is expanding and looking for a place to get out! To prevent this, drill a hole in your plate that will pass into the center of the tube. This is also good practice for roll cages. Drill a small hole in the tube that you are landing your next tube to, but do it so that the hole will be covered by the new tube that you are now welding to the project.
AUSTIN Month ago
@Nicholas Payne whats even more genius is using the cage as the air tank for the chute and wastegate
Nicholas Payne
Nicholas Payne 2 months ago
@Brett marcus that’s genius
Brett marcus
Brett marcus 2 months ago
You can also tap that hole for a schrader valve and then after welding, install the schrader valve. This lets you pressurize the tubes throughout the life of the cage to test for any weld failures.
KSR Performance & Fabrication
Doh, just read the other commenters saying the same thing and you mentioning the vent hole. You are probably right about there being oil inside of the tube. Doesn't take much to make a nice weld turn ugly!
Vailos Quiet
Vailos Quiet 2 months ago
use a late 2000s mr2 eletric pump from the mr2 spider
camaross92 2 months ago
Could do some sheet metal inner fenders off the bars to the frame rail, maybe with some zeus clips lol. or dimple die some trusses for the 90°s.
Jim Henline
Jim Henline 2 months ago
Get yourself a lady that loves the smell of brakleen.
Centurial Inc
Centurial Inc 2 months ago
Thanks for showing our tools. Good work gentlemen.
Steven Lindsay
Steven Lindsay 2 months ago
Couldn't you measure from the laser point/dot to the center point of the fish plate? Instead of trying to hold the piece up and level and take a measurement.
lewis abbott
lewis abbott 2 months ago
If your struggling for room or aftermarket options. You can get a electric power steering which goes on the steering column which maybe an idea for you.
Pana Giotis
Pana Giotis 2 months ago
You boys need a Tapeboss!
Night Rider
Night Rider 2 months ago
Look at Cooper Bugatti 240 hydraulic power steering set up don't know if it's something you would be interested in
ltseven 2 months ago
You kids do nice work
Jwy2063 2 months ago
Gadget tools that actually work is awesome, good info 👍🏻,,, But with my 20 plus yrs of off-road cage, bumpers, rock sliders, etc fabing, another cool DIY tool is a 4'x3/8" break line, you can bend it to fit Many times over for exact angles and length (up to 4' , need longer get longer) ! Had to give my "2cents",,, AND YOU GUY ARE AWESOME 😎 LV THE CHANNEL !! AND at 12:03 GIT YA SAFETY GLASSES ON !!
Steven Paraone
Steven Paraone 2 months ago
About time Letz Goo
Dead End Garage
Dead End Garage 2 months ago
Check out electric power steering from a Prius. The motor is under dash out of sight.
B Doyle
B Doyle 2 months ago
Look into late model mopar stuff for power steering, I worked on a 2012 challenger 5.7 that had an electric power steering pump, it still takes fluid but its electric over hydraulic
pgf202 2 months ago
MR2's, Volvos, and possibly a newer Mini have power steering pumps that are driven with a motor so you can keep the rack the way it is and mount the pump where ever you want. My Race Shop LLC makes a programable controller for the MR2 pump if you go that route.
Dan L
Dan L 2 months ago
Now take and scratch those marks permanently into that cheater pipe for when the marker rubs off.
Cody Thomforde
Cody Thomforde 2 months ago
Toyota mr 2 has electric power steering that’s easy to modify
herculesrockafeller 2 months ago
The Car Wizard did electric power steering from a Prius in Hoovie’s ‘GT 350’
JFK64 Kennedy
JFK64 Kennedy 2 months ago
quick way to find tube centerline, take combination sq, set blade of square to oa pipe diameter, yes diameter...put cast part of sq on top of pipe, blade down side, get blade end flat against table, flat surface and pull square down pipe, pushing blade hard against pipe, the blade will scratch pipe in center, and if need, can also mark top, exactly perpendicular, 90 deg. from 1st line
BMC Turbo and Fab
BMC Turbo and Fab 2 months ago
23:30 mark, just point the laser to the centerline on the firewall and measure the distance to your target. You won’t have to try and hold the tube level and measure and keep it on target with the laser all at the same time 👍🏻
Zack Loftis
Zack Loftis 2 months ago
MR2 power steering pump
Deck Ape
Deck Ape 2 months ago
When I turned 50 I realized that I didn't know as much as I did when I was 25. I enjoy your explanations, they are on the line of "You have brains but maybe didn't know this."
Tyler Lewis
Tyler Lewis 2 months ago
This was the exact video I was looking for, without looking for it.
mason shipman
mason shipman 2 months ago
also, just do prius/saturn electric steering assist.
mason shipman
mason shipman 2 months ago
come drive my volvo swapped datsun bullet side and then sponsor me thanks
Manny S
Manny S 2 months ago
I was all-in on the C10...but I think I'm loving (& wanting more of) the Cadillac content! #FSM
mindwreckRC 2 months ago
look up ford/volvo electric steering pump. you can remote mount it anywhere. used in a lot of different hot rods and swaps.
Jack Hoff
Jack Hoff 2 months ago
The weld on the tube didn't loose argon coverage, it blew out. You crated a sealed chamber and heated it up. when you seal up a tube like that you need to drill a small hole to relive the pressure.
Andy Yarnell
Andy Yarnell 2 months ago
Nice tube work
callthemall 2 months ago
Drinking game: drink every time Mike says bend.
Evan Lesinski
Evan Lesinski 2 months ago
Another great channel is Bad Obsession Motorsport. They shoe horned a 4wd Toyota into a classic mini. They ended up using a electric over hydraulic Mercedes power steering pump.
dopesquatch 2 months ago
The laser cant just fit in the tube without the profile part?
Rob Roten
Rob Roten 2 months ago
"Be really careful!" As he wipes down tubing with a rag soaked in acetone WITH HIS BARE HANDS!
steve goodwin
steve goodwin 2 months ago
Friendly observation... Guys when Mike celebrated at the end of the video I noticed a much better stereo sound. Was that because the video was taken with a different device?
W J 2 months ago
Well, gr8 work guys and totally informative and simplified technical training for people who also have OCD to some degree!!! Oh, what's going on with the Cadillac?
JimPeachley 2 months ago
Could the struts be tilted out toward the fenders to create more clearance around the engine? Maybe you could loosely hose clamp a ruler to the mock-up bend so it could be slid out to measure the needed additional length.
CertifiedCarNut 2 months ago
This truck is the US version of Binky...
DEATHSTROKE 2 months ago
Newbern's a gem bro, look after that guy.
sas86toy 2 months ago
Need a weep hole in tube to allow excess gases to escape that’s why it blows out where your trying to finish the weld..... I would of put on backside of that firewall plate where it’ll be covered 🤙🏼
sas86toy 2 months ago
lol just seen that’s already been commented ... oops but drilling a #30 hole behind firewall plate would be a good spot.
CoRy35744 2 months ago
Holley makes an Accessory Drive System and Power Steering Add-On Kits for GM Gen V LT4's www.holley.com/products/engine/accessory_drive_brackets_and_kits/gm_gen_v_lt/
Shayne Gadsden
Shayne Gadsden 2 months ago
with the power steering there are electric hydraulic options, instead of an engine drive hydraulic pump or electric power steer it's an electric power steer pump so the steering is still a hydraulic rack but the pump can just be mounted on the firewall or anywhere really the car i was looking at for here Australia was a 1998-2006 Holden Astra so i imagine a similar year GM compact hatch would have a similar unit
hq632 2 months ago
In Australia it’s pretty popular to use a 1998 - 2008 Holden astra (not sure if GM sold them in US or not) power steering pump for conversions. they are an electric pump that can be plumbed into a hydraulic rack. Can also be remote mounted out of engine bay.
mk2vrt 2 months ago
Hey jackals you can weld a t I've completely closed without drilling a whole Also mr2 and valvo have electric power steering in the trunk
Shaun Hensley
Shaun Hensley 2 months ago
Bro that's awesome watching you teach yourself tubing. I went through something similar with instrument tubing on my last major project and I know exactly your pain😂
Tim Johansson
Tim Johansson 2 months ago
Hi Finnegan, Regarding your Power Steering trouble there are options. 1. Electric power steering. Use power steering rack and control unit from a Toyota Prius, easily installed and wired up. There's even a wire up on this at Hotrod Magazine website! Pros on using the Toyota electrical power steering is that they go in to failsafe mode with no CANBUS connected so they have a constant, fairly normal, power steering assist instead of variable with speed. GM units don't work AT ALL without CANBUS or a CANBUS simulator. 2. Electrical PS pump from a modern Volvo, like an S60 or similar. 12v supply and ground. That's it. Can be remote mounted.
Clayton Pereversoff
Clayton Pereversoff 2 months ago
What is that orange lathe in the back round?
Rhys Sutherland
Rhys Sutherland 2 months ago
12 volt Dave with the safety squint. Made my day
Zach Jenkins
Zach Jenkins 2 months ago
hey guys. someone may have mentioned this already. It seems like instead of having Newbern hold that pipe up so that the laser shines on the crosshair for Finnegan to measure the base. Instead maybe you could just have left it in place then measured from the laser on the firewall up to the crosshair. just a thought in case next time you don't have any help around to assist. good video.
Farming - Firefighting and Fun with Big John
I've watched his videos! You can learn a bunch from him! Nice work guys! Thanks for sharing!
Brian Timothy
Brian Timothy 2 months ago
So apparently the Toyota MR2 had an electric power steering pump, as in a electric pump that creates the hydraulic pressure for your hydraulic power steering. I guess drifters use them, at the 17 minute mark of this video they mount one and talk about it. us-first.info/player/video/ib13f4modneYoZc.html
Stonewall78 2 months ago
12:01 Whole wall of safety devices... just closes his eyes... #facepalm
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